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ELLIOTT

some people help others for different reasons ,some people are very rich but money is never enough and they will try to get the little which the disadvantaged has.The savior hero want to be famous and praised by misrepresenting the disadvantaged.

Lyndon

"Nothing is changed in society to deal with the source of the problem so that more young men and women could also live better lives with more opportunities and quality education."

I agree this is the crux of the problem. I do not know how to show this on film, or at least how to make it useful if it is shown on film. How do we show or inspire people to see that our society does not have to reproduce itself the way it does?

I am not thinking well, but maybe movies like "Crash" and others (?) do a better job of presenting this message instead of the line of films that you are talking about. Of course it is a shame that Avatar has become so big and is not doing the message justice.

Ash


You’re right that there seems to be one hero in each tale. The role they take is not a small one in the stories; they have to completely change the lives on one person, or save the lives of many. It’s astounding to think they people believe they are obligated to take on such a huge task to perform small miracles. In Avatar the task of being accepting into a society is a hard role, when being from a different society that is destructive and war bent, but Jake take on the role smoothly and ends up saving the village from utter doom. Things like this are inspiring to watch, and hear about.

Dean Hewson

According to Alain de Botton, Greek tragedies, where the hero is befallen with circumstance 'tragic' due to one small character flaw, served the purpose of reminding the audience just how close, but for one small folly, they could end up murdering their father, sleeping with their mother and gouging their own eyes out.

Empathy for the downtrodden is the natural extension of Art such as this; the disadvantaged are viewed not as losers but as people not so different that could be any member of society if the right (well, wrong) set of circumstances befell them.

Film-makers can only make what will be watched, otherwise they will not be given the budget to tell their next story, which of course means their films must be marketed towards the mainstream of society. On top of that, what good is an enlightened message if nobody see's it, nobody grasps it other than those that already get it?

Mainstream films are for the mainstream/dominant ideology, and telling the story from the dominant ideologies point of view is the obvious and perhaps plainly necessary way to make the film appealing by the people who pay the money that in the end is the reason films are able to be made.

Avatar has the audience cheering along with the Navi as they kill Humans (humans that seem to be pretty American...), surely serving a good purpose in at least tacitly reminding the viewers that in any battle, there are two sides, and a death on one side is just as tragic as a death on the other.

The reverse on the dominant helping the disadvantaged seems to be an obvious trope to be mined, but off the top of my head I can't think of any films where the traditionally disadvantaged group helps the traditionally dominant. Except for that song Mr Wendel by Arrested Development.

Good track that.

 Kaitlyn

The movie "Blind Side" really shows us how a person's status reflects how they he/she lives and is treated. Michael had an ascribed status in this movie. That being, an African American who was basically homeless because of his mother who is struggling with addiction. Michael did not chose this life. He was born into it and by his parent's choices, he was forced into a life like he had.
When Michael was picked up by Leigh Anne, his life completely changed in a way. He still had that ascribed status. He could never get rid of it, but from being taken in by Leigh Anne, he earned an achieved status. He was introduced to football by his new family and soon became a college football player. He earned that status.
Michael experienced multiple status changes during his life and that must have been difficult to deal with. After reading this post, it made me realize how one's status can change just like that, but you will always live with your ascribed status.

kelli

I happened to see both movies. I would say you are exactly on with the hero aspect on both. I did enjoy the part in Avatar with the equalness. But its not very realistic with the way our government is. Our government just takes over everything. With the movie blind side it does show how everything you do will relfect how you are in society. Unfortunatly the boy in this movie was brought up in a drug environment and was not put in school. To make it worse he was African American in an almost all white school. Here again we see that even though we claim we do not discriminate .. we do! Michael in the BLind side could not change his past and how people viewed him but he was at least given a chance to prove that he could make something with his life.

Joya

Don't forget "To Sir, With Love" (it works both ways) and better one than none

Daniel

I'd love to know what led to the inclusion of "Cool Runnings" in the list of similar movies. I'm till trying to figure that one out – is it because John Candy's character was a American teaching Jamaicans about ice and bobsledding? I think the geography pretty much sets up the premise for that one.

It's also pretty clear that Irv Blitzer's character (John Candy) is only one part of an ensemble team. We identify with all the characters – perhaps Derice Bannock most, actually. Every one of the ensemble, though, shares about equal screen time and each also has a sympathetic character arc, which is later influenced positively by the team as a whole – not any one individual. If anything, it's the white guy who's in the end really saved by the "disadvantaged" black guys – 'cause as washed out as Irv is, he makes for a pretty lousy white savior.

Still, I could have missed something.

Bryan Neal

Every movie has a hero. White or black. In fact more and more movies have the black guy as the hero. Ever seen a Will Smith or Morgan Freeman movie. Dances with Wolves would not have made sense if will Smith was cast as John Dunbar. Try not to be so narrow in your analysis.

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